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quote: Childrens well being is more important that adult rights to see all films
If you look at the facts there is still a vast amount of extreme content that isn’t censored or banned and is even shown on terrestrial television. Saying that censorship is protecting children is wrong, the things that are censored now tend to be more about moral standpoint than protecting the public. If you watched C4 Banned Season you would have seen that "The Evil Dead" was shown. This movie was banned by the BBFC and now any child can watch it on television. It's the inconsistency which is annoying. |
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Boring reality tv shows should be totally censored, banned and shown only in arthouse cinemas where you have to apply for membership 48 hours in advance before being allowed to watch.
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quote: Originally posted by SilkTork:
Boring reality tv shows should be totally censored, banned and shown only in arthouse cinemas where you have to apply for membership 48 hours in advance before being allowed to watch.
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quote: Originally posted by becky_23:
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I don't have much more to add to this debate but can I just say how refreshing to see a debate rather than "I'm right, you're wrong so there" in awful English that you see everywhere else. My argument against censorship is Shakespeare - unless you are talking modern remakes they almost always get U certificates but involve incest, murder, suicide, under age marriage, madness, treason etc etc etc. (Sorry if this has been brought up before - having a young son I have limited time to read here  )
***Charlie don't surf***
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Take recent extreme Brit horror THE LAST HORROR MOVIE for example. The MPAA refused a rating, the UK release got an 18 and the Norwegian release a 15. I think this is a good example how how different governments like to patronise.
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CAN SOMEONE REMOVE THIS DISCUSSION, many people get in here hoping to find some list of banned movies, but what do we find, just comments and more comments about some rules and bla bla bla. Can someone at least change the name to the subject to something more appropiated, like "boring discussion about censorship" Thanks quote: Originally posted by RASTA:
Take recent extreme Brit horror THE LAST HORROR MOVIE for example. The MPAA refused a rating, the UK release got an 18 and the Norwegian release a 15. I think this is a good example how how different governments like to patronise.
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It seems like censorship has stopped altogether.
It is a necessary evil i think.
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Have any of you out there seen 'Cannibal Holocaust' - is it any good?
I only ask cos I saw a few clips of it and it was described as one of the most sickest movies ever made and wanna know whether it's worth buying!
I have bought previously banned movies like Last House on the Left and I Spit on your Grave on dvd but didn't see what all the fuss was about.
Many thanking yous.
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I wouldn't buy it. Its OK but not fantastic. Good special effects but no story.
Corporate Spies called John should be neutered.
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quote: Originally posted by Film Ed:
Is film censorship in the UK an important safeguard or an unnecessary evil?
Join the debate about the world of extreme, controversial and challenging movies, but remember your manners!
What people see should be their own choosing and what kids see should be the parent's/gaurdian's choosing. If people are offended by certain content then it is their right to choose NOT to watch it.
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quote: Originally posted by Tekuma: quote: Originally posted by Film Ed:
Is film censorship in the UK an important safeguard or an unnecessary evil?
Join the debate about the world of extreme, controversial and challenging movies, but remember your manners!
What people see should be their own choosing and what kids see should be the parent's/gaurdian's choosing. If people are offended by certain content then it is their right to choose NOT to watch it.
Theres a new device called an off switch, don't like what you are watching, use it
Corporate Spies called John should be neutered.
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why dont we put an end to all this and just hold extensive scientific tests to find out whether images have any effect on viewers.noone actually seems to know whether is any causal effect in horror films etc.so why not just find out whether films harm by using different individuals in controlled tests.all we have now is just endless rhetorical debates which go nowhere
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I dont think any tests are necessary my thinking is.
Watching violent films of any degree does not affect how a person acts and does not influence their actions, everybody has a sense of what is right and what is wrong regarding behaviour and
the affects it has on other people.
However young people at a certain age level can be very impressionable and i think any descent parent would not let a child watch any UNSUITABLE film, but as we know alot of parents these days do not give a shit about there kidsand let the do whatever they want, i think before we rip censorship apart we should take a long hard look at ourselves first.
Censorship is there for a reason, but i think every person has a morale right to use there own censorship.
Serial Killers are born but they can be stopped from fullfiling their potential - Jeffery Dahmers Doctor
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quote: Originally posted by jonesthebond:
I have bought previously banned movies like Last House on the Left and I Spit on your Grave on dvd but didn't see what all the fuss was about.
youve got to remember though that it was quite a while back that these films were banned and, even as recent as 10 years ago, ratings were stricter back then. (can you imagine if something like psycho was released now? it be like a PG. maybe not even that.) |
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quote: Originally posted by hellboy:
However young people at a certain age level can be very impressionable and i think any descent parent would not let a child watch any UNSUITABLE film...
i think children are alot more passive about horror films these days to be honest, my little brother watched Stephen King's Misery (which even freaked ME out a bit) when he was about 11 and he thought it was hilarious!  |
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quote: Originally posted by pwoods: quote: Originally posted by davidkessler:
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More control on directors but less concerns about the content?
Whoa ! What a dangerous notion. Why stop there ? Why not have a BBDC (British Board Of Director Classification), which runs a psychoanalysis of each potention director before allowing them to make any films ? I think you may have forgotten that we have laws that should protect people from harm and exploitation by others, whether it's on a film set or in any other workplace. The entire point of fiction is that it allows artists to explore the unpalatable, the dangerous, the illegal, the obscene, etc. Peter
Anything should be questioned but not censored. Don't forget Peter Sutcliffe said that the Bible made him do his dirty deeds...never saw any call for the banning of the Bible.
The populist authoritarianism that is the downside of political correctness means that anyone, sometimes it seems like everyone, can proclaim their grief and have it acknowledged. The victim culture, every sufferer grasping for their own Holocaust, ensures that anyone who feels offended can call for moderation, for dilution, and in the end, as is all too often the case, for censorship. And censorship, that by-product of fear - stemming as it does not from some positive agenda, but from the desire to escape our own terrors and superstitions by imposing them on others - must surely be resisted. ~Jonathon Green, "Did You Say 'Offensive?',"
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quote: Originally posted by benoitfunk:
Unfortunately, intellectuals do. In other words, not film fans. The new head of the BBFC doesn't even like films, for Chrissakes! I wouldn't even TALK to someone who's never seen a porno, let alone allow them to decide what I can watch.
Intellectuals watching a gory cannibal movie are always gonna say it's trash. But that's the point. A horror fan watching a gory cannibal movie is gonna say it's trash, too. But trash doesn't mean it's bad.
Here's to a BBFC staffed entirely by films fans. My proposals if anyone wants me for the job:
*All films cut to 90 minutes.
*Unnecessary (or boring) dialogue thrown in the bin.
*All bright white teeth pixellated.
*Fast MTV cutting banned entirely. This is especially true for large scale battle scenes in 'epic' historical snoozefests.
*Films without a sex scene shall have one imposed on them (randomly).
*Any evidence of a social message shall be removed, for fear of post-film boredom from dim-witted 'clever'-types.
Here's to censorship!
Reduced to 90mins?!..a good film doesnt even start to get going by then
The populist authoritarianism that is the downside of political correctness means that anyone, sometimes it seems like everyone, can proclaim their grief and have it acknowledged. The victim culture, every sufferer grasping for their own Holocaust, ensures that anyone who feels offended can call for moderation, for dilution, and in the end, as is all too often the case, for censorship. And censorship, that by-product of fear - stemming as it does not from some positive agenda, but from the desire to escape our own terrors and superstitions by imposing them on others - must surely be resisted. ~Jonathon Green, "Did You Say 'Offensive?',"
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There could be a lot more censorship of films if the Government get their 'extreme pornography' law... http://www.indexonline.org/en/news/articles/2006/3/brit...wers-over-porn.shtmlAlthough they say that films passed by the BBFC won't be covered by the law, surely there'll be changes in what the BBFC will allow. I really can't see the Government criminalising the possession of sexually violent pornographic material but the BBFC allowing sexual violence as entertainment, can you? There's more information about the proposed law here... http://www.melonfarmers.co.uk/gch.htmSJ |
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quote: Originally posted by candyman:
It seems like censorship has stopped altogether.
It is a necessary evil i think.
Censorship of the mainstream UK news is the worst law. I'm fed up with the number of times they sanitise everything by saying 'the pictures are too graphic/upsetting/shocking to show'. Thank god for the internet (and other countries news stations). Anyway, one of the stupidest laws is probably the porn law, where an actor or actress has to be 18 to pretend to do things that in real life they can legally do at aged 16 (well, the majority of things  ). |
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